James Wolk as Robert/Bob Allen in Lone Star. Photo by Patrick Ecclesine and copyright of Fox Television.
From Chris Keyser and Amy Lippman, the creators of Party of Five; Marc Webb, the director of (500) Days of Summer, and creator Kyle Killen, comes Lone Star, a provocative new drama set in Texas and airing Mondays @ 9:00 p.m. EST/PST on Fox.
Robert/Bob Allen (James Wolk) is a charismatic and brilliant schemer who has meticulously constructed two lives in two different parts of Texas. He's juggling two identities and two women in two very different worlds - all under one mountain of lies.
As "Bob," he lives in Houston and is married to Cat (Adrianne Palicki), the beautiful daughter of Cline (Jon Voight), the patriarch of an ultra-wealthy Texas oil family. More than 400 miles away in the suburban west Texas town of Midland, he's "Robert," living a second life with his sweet, naive girlfriend Lindsay (Eloise Mumford). In Midland, he plays the perfect boyfriend while secretly bilking local investors of their savings. In Houston, he's a devoted husband, charming Cat and her family to cement his position in the rich family business he aims to clean out.
Bob has lived both lives successfully for years without arousing any suspicions...so far. While one brother-in-law, Drew (Bryce Johnson), admires Bob, his other brother-in-law, Trammell (Mark Deklin), is growing suspicious of his motives. With the cons closing in on him, Bob begins to fear his secret lives may unravel as he becomes divided by his love for two women; his loyalty to his father and mentor, John (David Keith), and his respect for his father-in-law, Clint. Now as he tries to hold his two lives together, while fending off angry investors and the growing suspicions of those around him, Bob puts it all on the line hoping he can beat the odds, leave the schemes behind and keep two separate relationships afloat.
The week before Lone Star's debut on Monday, September 20th, the show's leading man James Wolk and executive producer Amy Lippman spoke with myself as well as other journalists about the series. The following is an edited version of our Q & A. Enjoy!
James, you had experience working in your Dad's shoe store and then later on being a DJ while you were at college and in New York. How do you think that might have shaped or given you this ability that is similar to Bob's, the ability to talk to people.
JAMES WOLK - I think the two things that those jobs have in common is an ability to connect with people and to make them feel not only comfortable but also believe in you. No one is going to buy a pair of shoes unless they feel comfortable with the person who's talking to them. No one is going to get on a dance floor or feel like they want to be part of a function unless they feel comfortable and at home. So to translate that to my character, Bob wants to make people feel comfortable. One of his greatest tools as a con man is to make people believe in him, So, yes, of course, I get to borrow things (from real life) all the time.
When did you first realize that you liked to do this (act)?
JW - I was about nine or ten and my parents used to sit me down in front of old Jimmy Durante or Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra "Rat Pack" movies. There was an energy that came off that TV that I knew I was attracted to.
James, I wanted to ask you about David Keith and Jon Voight; since you are a relative newcomer to the scope of a show like this, I'm curious if they were people that you relied on in terms of seeking counsel or them offering counsel in working on the show.
JW - Well, you know, the great thing about those guys is that they're always there. They're always present on the set. They're generous people and so it's a real honor as a young actor to be in a scene with them. I mean that wholeheartedly for no other reason than this is where most of the counsel comes from. It just comes from being in the moment with them and them looking into your eyes and giving you all the material that you need to react and act. You learn a lot by osmosis and just being around people who's done it for a long time. And I think it's wonderful to be on-set with those guys. They're very kind people, and very generous, too.
Amy, how important was it that this role go to someone who wasn't well known?
AMY LIPPMAN - Well, I think our feeling was well-known or not, you just need someone who's really right for the part. The interesting thing about the way James came to the part is that it was (originally) conceived as an older character, and when we met him, we began to rethink the character because we thought he had so many of the qualities that were really, really important to us. James had a warmth as well as a directness and a charm and a charisma that made us rethink what it meant to have an older actor in the role. And I have to say I do think that we are really advantaged by the fact that people will discover him and that they don't bring other roles that he's done into the mix. James is a new face, a new talent and he can inhabit this character without other people thinking, "I've seen him do this," or, "I've seen him do that." So I believe there'll never be a moment in time like this for him again, where people don't know who he is. Again, I think we're going to take advantage of that as much as we can.
James, your character has a lot going on in the show where, for example, he has this relationship with his father as well as Jon Voight's character, and he's also got the two loves and the two lives, of course. What do you find the most challenging about the role now that you've walked in Bob's shoes for a while?
JW - That's a really good question. I think the most challenging thing for Bob is, of course, being everything to everyone, and we touch on that. It's more difficult than one would imagine, to fully live two lives. I think Bob's greatest challenge is to give his all to these people, and really, he can't. He's in two different worlds.
AL - Also, if I can jump in, having seen Jimmy's work on the show. I see how conflicted he is about hurting people, just as a person, not just as an actor, but as a person. So what I see as being a challenge for him is to actually inhabit the role of someone who is selfish or deluded or has put his own need to have a real life ahead of the people who sort of comprise that life in some way. And it's an interesting struggle that all of us have in sort of the conceiving of the show, which is what is that balance? What is that balance between him truly being a sympathetic character and wanting the best for the people around him, and at the same time really being responsible for putting himself in a position where everyone could potentially lose?
Amy, how long to do you think you can keep this con going and keep it realistic?
AL - That's really the challenge of it. That's what's giving us grey hairs and keeping us in the story room very, very late at night. I think what you will find is that there's lots of intrigue in the show. There are sort of overarching cons that may last the entire season as well as smaller cons that Bob is forced to participate in to keep his two lives going and separate. And we're trying to balance that with a realism, and even though he has two lives, each marriage needs to have issues that don't necessarily relate to the deception, and I think we will be successful if we can interest an audience in what goes on in each of those marriages.
Also, what goes on between those two father figures isn't always related to a secret, lie or con that's being told. So, again, it's very intriguing, and it's a very complicated premise, too. Bob is certainly the most complicated character we've ever written because he's got a lot of demons. He comes from a very dysfunctional past. The character is striving for a really honest, functional future, and in the present, extricating himself from one world to be free to go into the other is very, very difficult. The good news is that it's really dramatic and emotional. Hopefully, that is what will bring an audience in, is the fact that they will like Bob and want him to succeed as well as feel for his conflict because it's a genuine conflict when it comes to what he's doing.
Is Bob essentially playing two different characters in himself in two different worlds, because there's a line where someone says that Bob made the mistake of playing himself.
JW - When David says, "You've made the mistake of playing yourself," that means that means that you've exposed yourself. You've opened yourself up to these people. It's hard to con people and walk away from them when you've made a real emotional connection with them, and that's what Bob's father, John, is great at doing - holding very little emotional connection so he's able to walk away from his cons. And one of Bob's faults is that he opens himself up to these two girls in these two worlds, and so he's played himself.
As for the character, he is himself in both places. Bob is himself in Midland, and he is himself in Houston. Now, he does tailor the way he interacts with people in Houston. He has to demand the respect of an oil company as well as the respect of a man like Clint Thatcher, played by Jon Voight, and in order to demand the respect of someone like Jon Voight, you've got to hold yourself up high.
So he has to carry himself with a certain self-respect as he walks through the office of Thatcher Oil. When he's in Midland, he can take more of a breath. He can relax, or so he thinks at this point, but he is himself altered a little bit in each place in order to get what he wants, in order to make these people believe in him and go with him on this journey.
Amy, not being flip or anything, but I'm curious, what came first in the creation of this show, the setting or the characters?
AL -Kyle Killen, who's from Texas, created the show, and speaking for him I would say that the idea evolved over time. I think there were various versions of it where Bob wasn't a con man, and then he immersed himself in some Texas history and looked at these oilmen who were profiled in books like The Big Rich, which is a really interesting book. You look at a character like H.L. Hunt, whose success gave him a kind of confidence to lead double lives. He had three families. I think two of them knew about each other, but he was just very bold about it. It gave him a kind of carte blanche, the success he had, to just take what he wanted. I think Kyle started with that and then kind of opened it up.
So I think it was always a Texas setting because he was interested in the history of the oil business and those kinds of characters. I think as he began to work on it and as we became involved, our goals were to really make that character very rich and figure out how someone in this situation can be sympathetic. How can you root for someone who's doing this? That was the trick of it, and I think it's what he handled really, really well in the pilot is that you are on the side of someone who is doing something that's really amoral.
What are some of the challenges you face producing this series?
AL - Well, the first one is just the practical challenges. This show has a huge scope, and we, the writing staff, are in Los Angeles and the show is shooting in Dallas. So practically speaking, it's difficult to be far away from production, and we go back and forth a lot. So that's a huge challenge.
Creatively, I would say the challenge is to do two things. It's to tell really dynamic, intriguing, kind of fantastic stories, but at the same time you don't want to get too far away from reality. Early on before people saw the show, there were a lot of questions asked about us being a soap. What were the comparisons to a show like Dallas? And I think the more people see the show, the more they understand that the differences between sort of a traditional Texas-like soap that you might envision is that this man's character, which is tragic, is also compelling and there's a certain degree of realism to it. Bob is not all bad, and he's not all good.
And for us, the challenge has been to sort of walk that fine line as we move through the stories - that Bob is not all sympathetic and he's not all evil, either. That he is human as well as flawed and to find a way that you can continue to root for him even when he does things that are kind of despicable, but with good intentions. So it's the practical difficulties of distant production that have been challenging and figuring out how to walk this line between a character who is both good and evil is kind of where we find ourselves right now.
As a con man or a schemer, why does Robert/Bob keep his Midland identity with Lindsay when his Houston life seems to be the bigger score for a con man?
AL - Well, I'll answer that in terms of how we writers understand it, and that is that Midland was a fluke. It was never his intention to fall in love with someone, and I say this because at the moment, Chris and I are embroiled in an episode that will reveal the origins of both those relationships.
Bob always had Cat in his sights as his mark and then made the mistake of falling in love with her. And initially he's not working for Thatcher Oil, either. It was a long con. He met her. He knew he wanted to get into the family business, but in the interim, before they welcomed him in, he had a life that he needed to maintain. And he did that by going around doing these smaller cons, and Midland was one of them. He sold these oil and natural gas leases in Midland, and over the course of selling Lindsay's parents on this con, he met and fell in love with her.
So Lindsay was just a glitch in a way, and I think that speaks to how vulnerable he was to the life that Lindsay had to offer him, which was simple and uncomplicated, far less citified, if that's a word, and Bob was drawn into it and then couldn't extricate himself. So Jon Voight's character's argument, certainly through the pilot, is that you could've gotten out clean. We had a goal. You are now in. He only gets into Thatcher Oil in the pilot, but the truth is that's probably been two or three years in the making. And Lindsay was just a detour that he made because he couldn't help falling in love with her.
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