
Mark Ryan as Gates in Black Sails. Photo copyright of STARZ.
From the English countryside to New York’s Carnegie Hall and even the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral – these are just a few of the places that the long and distinguished career of actor/writer/swordmaster/fight director Mark Ryan has taken him to in pursuit of his craft. He can next be seen sailing the high seas onboard a pirate ship as Quartermaster Gates in the highly-anticipated STARZ Channel period drama Black Sails. His role in this project came about as a result of his previous involvement in a popular feature film franchise.
“I’d worked on the Transformers movies with Michael Bay [who is also an executive producer on Black Sails], and when this role came up, he thought of me,” says Ryan. “The Gates character is very much the inner voice of the show and part of the audience’s eye-view of the politics as well as chemistry amongst the characters. I think they wanted a character not unlike the one of Jetfire that I voiced in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. That character was in the middle of all the action but could also explain the history of everything going on.
“When I met with Jon Steinberg [Black Sails executive producer/writer and co-creator] here in Los Angeles, we had a really good talk about the show and Gates. I understood the character and the quartermaster’s political position onboard a pirate ship in those days, part of which had to do with my past in the military and serving onboard warships.
“The rapport between what they now call on some ships the captain’s purser, or the quartermaster, and the crew is the political nexus point between the crew and the captain. Contrary to a lot of folklore, it was a very democratic system onboard a pirate ship. The crew voted in the quartermaster, the bosun and the captain, and if they didn’t like them, they could vote them out. The system wasn’t just one of, ‘OK, I’m the captain, so therefore you do what I say.’ Don’t forget, these are all guys who were rebelling against British rule, so it needed to be done in a way that would please everybody onboard, and that is played throughout the storyline of Black Sails.”

L-R: Billy Bones (Tom Hopper), Captain Flint (Toby Stephens), Gates (Mark Ryan) and John Silver (Luke Arnold). Photo copyright of STARZ.
Set in the mid-18 century and 20 years prior to the classic tale Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson, Black Sails follows the adventures of Captain Flint (Toby Stephens), the smartest and most feared pirate of his day, who takes on a young and ambitious addition to his crew named John Silver (Luke Arnold). Together they and the rest of Flint’s men fight to maintain the existence of New Providence Island, the most colorful and infamous criminal refuge of the time. It provides a “safe” harbor for pirates, prostitutes, thieves, fortune seekers and others of questionable repute who are looking to make a life for themselves in a place where the conventional rules of society do not necessarily apply. Taking the leap into such a world was an exciting prospect for Ryan.
“We filmed our episodes out of order, as most TV series and big films do, and I say this because Black Sails is an evolution in television drama,” explains the actor. “I think it’s much more significant as far as what it stands for in television and film drama than just another series. During the course of filming, I said, ‘You know, we’re filming an eight-hour movie here,’ because the scale of this production is probably one of the biggest that has ever been mounted, not just for STARZ but for television drama as a whole.
“The sets, the number of extras and stuntmen, the props, everything is just bigger than most of your sort of medium-sized film productions. They built two full-scale gunboats, and the gun decks, cargo holds and even the captain’s cabin were all on gimbles so that they could rock as if we were really at sea. I looked at this and thought, ‘This is quite unique and is going to be a landmark in television history,’ because they took the production values of a Michael Bay-type film and put them into a television series.
“When we first started shooting, Toby Stephens and I, whose characters are like the yin and yang of the moral stories that run through the first episode, formed quite a strong bond. The two of us did a lot of theatre in London’s West End and spent a great deal of time working in other film and television areas, so we got on very well. Toby and I share a similar sense of humor and gave each other a tremendous amount of support, all of which reads onscreen. In fact, the producers came to me and asked, ‘Did you guys know each other before this? It looks like you’ve been friends for years.’ It was just one of those things where the chemistry was immediate, and what cemented it was that sense of humor. So for me, right from the beginning, I said to myself, ‘This is going to be great.’”

L-R: John Silver (Luke Arnold), Gates (Mark Ryan) and Captain Flint (Toby Stephens). Photo copyright of STARZ.
As season one of Black Sails unfolds, Ryan delighted in watching his character grow and develop as Gates reacted to the various situations and those around him. “As you will see as the story progress, and in no way am I complaining, Toby and I had very complex styles of sequences to do,” he says. “I have to be careful what I say as not to spoil things, but we had some scenes that were maybe eight pages long. There was one where I had an almost two-minute monologue. The [acting] challenge was therefore trying to anchor that process into the making of a TV show so that it remained true to the character as well as the story’s overall throughline, which I have to say wasn’t difficult.
“Before filming began, I thought a lot about the character and did my research in order to get into the part. So I’d already sort of locked that down in my head, which meant when the scripts began to arrive, it wasn’t hard for me to read them and think, ‘OK, this is how my character reacts.’ It was very clearly defined in my psyche as far as who this individual was, what they brought to the show, and what their position was in the chemistry as well as the politics of the story that we were creating on these boats.
“I understood very clearly who Gates was, where his morality lay, why he was where he was, and why people trusted him. He’s a very wily character and extremely loyal. He’s also a very straight type of character in many ways and sort of profoundly anchored in the reality of fairness and, again, loyalty. Gates realizes that in order to hold onto the support of the crew, you have to appear to be evenhanded. Despite being one of Flint’s oldest and most trusted allies and friends, he still has to be seen to be fair and tries his best to do so.
“Again, I’d have to say because of Jon Steinberg’s and Robert Levine’s [series co-creator/executive producer] writing, they had already mapped out these storylines in intricate detail,” continues Ryan. “By that I mean each of our characters has a backstory and storyline that is worked out psychologically as far as what drives them and what gets them from A to B. We had, I think, three or four scripts when we arrived to work that first week, and reading the first one we discovered it was really the anchor point for this whole thing. When Jessica Parker Kennedy [Max], Zach McGowan [Captain Charles Vane] and I were at Comic-Con last year, we restated this. On the very first cast readthrough of the first script, we all stood around afterwards and said, ‘Wow, this is really well-played out.’ Each character had a very individual and distinctive voice in that reading.

Mark Ryan at Black Sails event.
“So it was a pleasure to then read the next script and the next and the next and think, ‘Yeah, I get it. I know why he’s doing that and I know where he’s going.’ I couldn’t wait to get a new script and find out what was coming next. You know, this is the kind of job that comes along once in a lifetime. Gates is a gift of a part and a milestone. It’s one of those roles where if you had asked me what would I like to be playing at your age and at this stage of your career, this would be it.”
Ryan is in a slight quandary when asked if he has a favorite scene from season one of Black Sails. “It’s difficult because I genuinely enjoyed the entire experience,” he reveals. “In the first episode there are three scenes that I really enjoyed, including one where Gates is explaining to Flint why the crew is about to vote him out and that there was a page missing from the log. That was really the establishment of the sense of humor between these two where Gates is continually almost nagging at him. Gates is like, ‘I suppose you have some sort of explanation for this. What are we going to do?’ He then goes on to say to Flint, ‘I know you’re lying and you expect me to go along with you. OK then, are we agreeing to do this?' There’s that element of humor in those types of scenes between Toby and I that are just a joy to play.
“Another scene I especially enjoyed doing was with Hannah New [Eleanor], where Gates is basically going to ask her character for money. You have to see the first episode to understand why, but that was a great scene to play because it called for a different range of emotions. One of the neat things for me with Gates is that I get to play a wide range of emotions that actors rarely get to play in a single production. I get to be funny, bossy, conniving and violent as well as getting to play the sense of loss, fear and drama that comes in living and battling on a pirate boat. So I was extremely lucky and grateful to be given the opportunity to bring out all these aspects of this character.”

L-R: Captain Flint (Toby Stephens), Billy Bones (Tom Hopper) and Gates (Mark Ryan). Photo copyright of STARZ.
Born in Doncaster, Yorkshire, England, the actor’s first foray into the entertainment industry was through music. “That was a large part of my life – including while growing up – doing stage plays and musicals,” recalls Ryan. “I always knew, though, that I would eventually have to make the transition to ‘straight’ acting. I was being offered more musical work in London’s West End, but I realized that if I didn’t do something of a straight film or television nature, I would be typecast as a musical performer, and I didn’t want that. I also didn’t want to be just an actor, and I don’t mean that to sound disparaging about the acting profession. It’s just that I wanted to flex my ambitions in a whole range of things, including the literary field, which I’ve done by writing books and comic books. I wanted to work behind the camera as well, and I’ve ended up doing that as a swordmaster and fight director.
“So I’ve been very fortunate to have had the chance to do all types of things. My father, who was a musician and singer during World War II after he left the RAF [Royal Air Force], always encouraged me, as did the rest of my family. However, I think it was a long shot for them, a bricklayer’s son from Doncaster making a career and living out of this strange business we call the entertainment industry. I’m sure my father wanted me to have something else to fall back on, but as it happened I was quite lucky. When I went to London I got the chance to do a show calling Being in the West End, and that was followed by Evita. So it was one of those things that once the die had been cast, I had the opportunity to follow it to the full extent. My father once said to me, ‘I don’t care what you do, just as long as you give 110% to anything that you try.’ So I’ve always done that and been dedicated to trying to be the best that I can be in that situation and not limit myself by my own fears.
“When it comes to acting in front of the camera, while I was still up in Yorkshire working the clubs and singing at various festivals, I wound up doing a lot of extra work for Granada Television in Manchester and Yorkshire Television on shows like Coronation Street, Crown Court and Emmerdale Farm. I learned a lot as a young man about being on-set and how things function. My big break, I suppose, after Evita, was [the 1982 feature film] Who Dares Wins, where I got to do scenes opposite Judy Davis, Richard Widmark and a number of other famous folks, including [the late] Lewis Collins, who played the lead. Ian Sharpe, who directed the movie, saw me in a West End play and that’s how I ended up playing Mac in Who Dares Wins, which is called The Final Option here in the States. Ian was very much instrumental in subsequently casting me in Robin of Sherwood.”
The Phantom of the Opera, First Knight, Evita, Special Ops: Delta Force, The Prestige and Transformers: Dark of the Moon are among Ryan’s later feature film credits. His other TV work includes roles on such series as Dempsey and Makepeace, William Tell, Peak Practice, The Bill, JAG, Alias, Community and the aforementioned Robin of Sherwood, in which he played the regular role of Nasir.

Mark Ryan as Nasir in Robin Hood.
“That was another situation like Black Sails where you could bring something to a character that the writers were willing to let you explore and personify,” notes the actor. “With Gates I’ve brought a little bit of personal stuff to that role, including esoteric things regarding the tattoos on the back of my head and hands. It’s all about personalizing it and bringing some of your own experiences to your performance. That’s what acting is; it’s reaching into all these little corners of your psyche and thinking, ‘Oh, I felt like that in this situation or that situation and had to manage it in a sensitive or sometimes forceful way.’
“With Robin of Sherwood, Richard Carpenter [series creator/writer] contacted me and said, ‘I don’t really know yet what we’re going to do with your character. We’ll work it out, but do you have any ideas.’ I told him that I had just been reading about The Crusade and the Knights Templar as well as The Order of Assassins, and would like to somehow work that in and make it a part of Nasir’s background, which they did.”
In addition to Black Sails, the actor’s fans can look forward to more of his work in the upcoming Transformers: Age of Extinction. “Once again it was exciting to be working with Michael Bay. We always have a laugh and good fun,” enthuses Ryan. “He’s a very ambitious and dynamic filmmaker. I have no doubt that this movie is going to be as big if not bigger than Dark of the Moon, which was absolutely monstrous. This is my fourth source of interaction with the Transformers and it was just as thrilling and interesting as the last three.
“Again, I have been extremely lucky. On Dark of the Moon I got to stand on Launch Pad 39-A right next to the Space Shuttle Endeavor before it took off on its last flight. NASA workers were coming up to me and saying, ‘After this one launches, this is all going to be demolished.’ Michael came down at one point to sit next to me on the launch pad. He said, ‘Isn’t this the coolest thing,’ and I said, ‘Yes, it is.’ It’s easy to be blasé about this kind of stuff, but for me to talk to the NASA guys who worked on all these space programs and just literally being on that hallowed ground was a tremendous honor.”

Actor Mark Ryan.
Sometimes a single person can affect how another individual looks at a part of their life. That happened to Ryan, and since then it is something that he has taken with him and passes on to others whenever possible.
“When I was doing Evita I was walking through Soho one day and I saw this man walking towards me,” says the actor. “It was Anthony Hopkins, and this was in 1980 before Silence of the Lambs. Obviously I couldn’t just go up and say hello to him, but as I passed him on the pavement I tapped him on the shoulder and said, ‘You don’t know me, but I’m doing a show around the corner. I just wanted to tell you that, for me, you are the greatest actor of your generation.’
“For the next 15 or 20 minutes, Anthony Hopkins stood in a rainy Wardour Street talking to me about the difference between stage and screen acting. He said it’s all about stillness. He said stage acting is about communicating with a live audience and sometimes in order to get an audiences’ attention you have to pull it externally from the outside in, whereas screen acting is all about inside out. You have to be able to thought-process what the eyes are doing to tell the story. I carried that with me into Who Dares Wins and my scene with Judy Davis, and subsequently into Robin of Sherwood where I virtually had no dialogue at all in three years of the show. It was all done by stillness and being able to project what’s going on from the inside out.
“So that was all down to Sir Anthony Hopkins, and it’s his kindness that I try to pay forward. I love talking with the fans. I’ve actually been told off for spending too much time with fans, but if anyone has a question I’ll answer it as intelligently and coherently as I can. You never know when something you say to someone is going to resonate with him or her for the rest of their lives. Robin of Sherwood still has a following today because it resonates with people in a certain way, and I am totally unashamed of saying that I love that show. I have friendships from it which I have kept for 30 years, including Ray Winstone, Jason Connery and Clive Mantle. We’re still close friends to this day. That’s one of the gifts that I’ve taken with me from Black Sails, and I know these people are going to be friends of mine for the rest of my life,” says Ryan.
Steve Eramo
Black Sails premieres Saturday, January 25th @ 9:00 p.m. EST/PST on STARZ. As noted above, all Black Sails photos copyright of STARZ, so please no unauthorized copying or duplicating of any kind. Thanks!